the ‘men are more likely to commit suicide’ in defense for MRAs is fucking stupid because they fail to count suicide attempts. Which is more prominent in women. Men just happen to pick the most lethal methods of suicide.
It’s not a “defense of MRAs” It’s a legit issue. Men are killing themselves of at close to 4 times the rate women are. Plus the whole “women attempt more” is smoke and mirrors to try and minimize and make the issue of men killing themselves seem less important. Something you seem all to happy to help with.
What do I mean it’s smoke and mirrors? Because the source intentionally interprets the data to make the talking point. The source of the claim attempt 3 times as often is this page. Which has a funny little clause at the bottom:
“494,169 people visited a hospital for injuries due to self-harm. This number suggests that approximately 12 people harm themselves for every reported death by suicide. However, because of the way these data are collected, we are not able to distinguish intentional suicide attempts from non-intentional self-harm behaviors.“
So what does that mean? It means they are guessing at best, and willfully misleading(lying) at worst. They say it right there, because of the way the data is collected there the woman who came in with a broken toe after she stubbed(non-intentional self harm) it is counted as a suicide attempt. It is given equal weight to real attempts like downing a bottle of sleeping pills. It also doesn’t account for women who survive making multiple attempts.
Please let me know the exact number of men who have to kill themselves in comparison to women before it’s okay to try and help them? it’s already at least 4 to 1. Does it need to be 10 times higher than women? Let me know exactly how many men add up to the value of a single woman in your eyes so we know when it’s okay with you personally to help suicidal men.
That last line fucked me up
She deleted the post lel
That last paragraph is an important one